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Hub Plott III
August 11th 07, 01:01 PM
Clark:

Last night my wife and daughter told me I had been very grumpy and
cantankerous all week. After giving me some examples I had to agree with
them. After re-reading our exchange it also appears that I let that sour
mood spill over here. Maybe it’s the heat (been 103-108F all week) but still
no excuse



My own issues with yEnc came about when I could not decode the images even
after downloading two different decoders and they not working with OE so I
just ignored the yEnc posts as I have no download limits and am not on
dial-up. Thanks to Indrek Aavisto’s post I found Fidolook which since
Thursday night has allowed problem free decoding to all the yEnc posts here.
I will still only post in the FAQ recommended formats but at least now I
can see what I have been missing and JPN has some outstanding shots!



What started out as a rational discussion and my suggestions on a couple of
ways to deal with yEnc posts depending on which side of the argument you
fall on since as you so rightly stated in a post that since it’s Usenet
people are going to do what they want as it is not moderated and yEnc is not
going to go away, quickly degenerated into a pointless tit for tat ****ing
match between the two of us. That was never my intention nor do I believe it
was your intention either. I am not a jerk nor do I wish to act like one.
Hopefully this post will end the arguing between us and we can go back to
plane pictures since that is why we all are here.



To the rest of the board I apologize for eating up a lot of download space,
and I wish Clark an enjoyable and relaxing weekend! And to keep on topic I
have added this picture.

Hub

Just Plane Noise[_2_]
August 11th 07, 02:17 PM
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:01:44 -0400, "Hub Plott III"
> wrote:

I am not a jerk nor do I wish to act like one.


Indeed, Hub, your post shows you to be quite a gentleman. For the
record, I've already thought of you as one of the decent people for
some days now!

Some poster a few days back threatened that if people posted in yEnc,
they'd leave this group with no friends. Well, I doubt it has
anything at all to do with yEnc, but there's a goodly handful on this
group I already consider friends--they're just decent people, and I
really do hope some come to Oshkosh some year!

Harry[_3_]
August 11th 07, 07:36 PM
Hub,

In the photo, is that a F4U Corsair in the foreground?

Pjmac35
August 11th 07, 07:49 PM
"Hub Plott III" > wrote in message
...
> Clark:
>
> Last night my wife and daughter told me I had been very grumpy and
> cantankerous all week. After giving me some examples I had to agree with
> them. After re-reading our exchange it also appears that I let that sour
> mood spill over here. Maybe it’s the heat (been 103-108F all week) but
> still no excuse
>
>
>
> My own issues with yEnc came about when I could not decode the images even
> after downloading two different decoders and they not working with OE so I
> just ignored the yEnc posts as I have no download limits and am not on
> dial-up. Thanks to Indrek Aavisto’s post I found Fidolook which since
> Thursday night has allowed problem free decoding to all the yEnc posts
> here. I will still only post in the FAQ recommended formats but at least
> now I can see what I have been missing and JPN has some outstanding shots!
>
>
>
> What started out as a rational discussion and my suggestions on a couple
> of ways to deal with yEnc posts depending on which side of the argument
> you fall on since as you so rightly stated in a post that since it’s
> Usenet people are going to do what they want as it is not moderated and
> yEnc is not going to go away, quickly degenerated into a pointless tit for
> tat ****ing match between the two of us. That was never my intention nor
> do I believe it was your intention either. I am not a jerk nor do I wish
> to act like one. Hopefully this post will end the arguing between us and
> we can go back to plane pictures since that is why we all are here.
>
>
>
> To the rest of the board I apologize for eating up a lot of download
> space, and I wish Clark an enjoyable and relaxing weekend! And to keep on
> topic I have added this picture.
>

A Sea Hurricane. two Barracudas, a Martlet, a Corsair and a Seafire!
Wonderful, but where taken? But there again, did Seafires have those
wing-strengthening strips fitted, or only Spitfires? Someone will know!

Regards

Pat Macguire

Hub Plott III
August 11th 07, 10:02 PM
Yes it is! All in Fleet Air arm markings taken in the UK at(if I remember
correctly) a repair depot.Vintage WWII color.
"Harry" > wrote in message
...
> Hub,
>
> In the photo, is that a F4U Corsair in the foreground?
>
>

Hub Plott III
August 11th 07, 10:04 PM
> A Sea Hurricane. two Barracudas, a Martlet, a Corsair and a Seafire!
> Wonderful, but where taken? But there again, did Seafires have those
> wing-strengthening strips fitted, or only Spitfires? Someone will know!
>
> Regards
>
> Pat Macguire
Pat:
IIRC at a UK Fleet Air Arm repair depot but I don't know which one.
Hub

Dave LaCourse
August 11th 07, 10:15 PM
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:01:44 -0400, "Hub Plott III"
> wrote:

> I am not a jerk nor do I wish to act like one.

Well, I for one never thought of you as a jerk, Hub. But, you have
"been very grumpy and cantankerous all week."

d;o)

Hub Plott III
August 12th 07, 01:32 AM
I resemble that remark! 8>)
"Dave LaCourse" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:01:44 -0400, "Hub Plott III"
> > wrote:
>
>> I am not a jerk nor do I wish to act like one.
>
> Well, I for one never thought of you as a jerk, Hub. But, you have
> "been very grumpy and cantankerous all week."
>
> d;o)
>
>

Glenn[_2_]
August 12th 07, 03:06 AM
"Just Plane Noise" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:01:44 -0400, "Hub Plott III"
> > wrote:
>
> I am not a jerk nor do I wish to act like one.
>
>
> Indeed, Hub, your post shows you to be quite a gentleman. For the
> record, I've already thought of you as one of the decent people for
> some days now!
>
> Some poster a few days back threatened that if people posted in yEnc,
> they'd leave this group with no friends. Well, I doubt it has
> anything at all to do with yEnc, but there's a goodly handful on this
> group I already consider friends--they're just decent people, and I
> really do hope some come to Oshkosh some year!

I am so confident that next year I will be there :-)
It's about time I did it.

Casey Tompkins
August 12th 07, 03:48 AM
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:01:44 -0400, "Hub Plott III"
> wrote:

>What started out as a rational discussion and my suggestions on a couple of
>ways to deal with yEnc posts depending on which side of the argument you
>fall on since as you so rightly stated in a post that since it’s Usenet
>people are going to do what they want as it is not moderated and yEnc is not
>going to go away, quickly degenerated into a pointless tit for tat ****ing
>match between the two of us.

--snip--

>To the rest of the board I apologize for eating up a lot of download space,
>and I wish Clark an enjoyable and relaxing weekend! And to keep on topic I
>have added this picture.

Hub,

I bowed out of the yEnc discussion very quickly, as the one side very
cleary refused to change their favorite utilities, no matter what. The
only reason I waded in was that -rhetorically speaking- the claim that
switching to a yEnc-capable reader added "complexity" is not
objectively supportable.

I'm no yEnc bigot, and I even posted suggestions on how (non-OE) folks
can change their configs to avoid using yEnc for uploads. Despite
that, I got a fair amount of grief about the whole question, so I
skated.

Anyway. Thanks so much for this shot. I've never seen a Corsair in
looks to be British dark green & sea grey before! Not to mention a
shot with a Spit, Corsair, and Hellcat in one shot. Or should I say
Seafire, Corsair, and Gannet?

....And is that a couple of Faireys in the right-middle-ground?

Anyway, that's a great shot, with all the different types, and I'd
love to hear if anyone has any background context. For example: is
that really a base in England? The vegetation seems to indicate that.

Thanks!
Casey

Andrew-S
August 12th 07, 04:57 AM
I have been way too to do anything but lurk from a far the past few days. I
too am thinking about Oshkosh for next year.

What would be cool is if the NG's regular shooters could have some sort of
get together at the event. In the not too distant future I will do a repost
from my visit to Oshkosh a couple of years ago.

Attached is an image from an on going project of mine at Washington Dulles
Airport...

Andrew





"Glenn" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Just Plane Noise" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:01:44 -0400, "Hub Plott III"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I am not a jerk nor do I wish to act like one.
>>
>>
>> Indeed, Hub, your post shows you to be quite a gentleman. For the
>> record, I've already thought of you as one of the decent people for
>> some days now!
>>
>> Some poster a few days back threatened that if people posted in yEnc,
>> they'd leave this group with no friends. Well, I doubt it has
>> anything at all to do with yEnc, but there's a goodly handful on this
>> group I already consider friends--they're just decent people, and I
>> really do hope some come to Oshkosh some year!
>
> I am so confident that next year I will be there :-)
> It's about time I did it.
>

Lynn in StLou[_2_]
August 12th 07, 03:56 PM
Andrew-S wrote:
> I have been way too to do anything but lurk from a far the past few days. I
> too am thinking about Oshkosh for next year.
>
> What would be cool is if the NG's regular shooters could have some sort of
> get together at the event. In the not too distant future I will do a repost
> from my visit to Oshkosh a couple of years ago.
>
> Attached is an image from an on going project of mine at Washington Dulles
> Airport...
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>

If you do, I will post mine from the same year.
Whatever happened to Tom?

Here is one. The gentleman is Bob Brunson, former
Corsair night fighter pilot. I got to speak with
him for about half an hour. I had hoped to
continue correspondence via email, but he chose
not to respond. Still, it was a privilege to
meet and talk with him.

--
Lynn in StLou
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Dave Speeking
August 14th 07, 12:14 AM
What is the plane on the right just in front of the Westland Whirlwind?

Dave

Just Plane Noise[_2_]
August 14th 07, 05:23 AM
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 02:06:33 GMT, "Glenn" >
wrote:

>
>"Just Plane Noise" > wrote in message
...
>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:01:44 -0400, "Hub Plott III"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I am not a jerk nor do I wish to act like one.
>>
>>
>> Indeed, Hub, your post shows you to be quite a gentleman. For the
>> record, I've already thought of you as one of the decent people for
>> some days now!
>>
>> Some poster a few days back threatened that if people posted in yEnc,
>> they'd leave this group with no friends. Well, I doubt it has
>> anything at all to do with yEnc, but there's a goodly handful on this
>> group I already consider friends--they're just decent people, and I
>> really do hope some come to Oshkosh some year!
>
>I am so confident that next year I will be there :-)
>It's about time I did it.

Alright!

Pjmac35
August 14th 07, 08:46 AM
"Dave Speeking" > wrote in message
t...
> What is the plane on the right just in front of the Westland Whirlwind?
>
> Dave
>

My guesses are. starting from foreground, Seafire, Corsair, Martlet
(Wildcat), on the right, a yellow-nosed Barracuda, then a black-nosed one,
then another Martlet half-out of the hangar. Facing at the far end, a
yellow-nosed Sea Hurricane and something peeping out of the hangar at the
left, which I wouldn't even guess at! I think the second Barracuda's tail
might have suggested a Whirlwind?

Regards

Pat Macguire

RustY©
August 14th 07, 10:26 AM
"Casey Tompkins" > wrote in message
...

> Anyway, that's a great shot, with all the different types, and I'd
> love to hear if anyone has any background context. For example: is
> that really a base in England? The vegetation seems to indicate that.

The landscape and the vegetation suggest that this could well be summer in
the UK but the different types of aircraft together with a lack of squadron
markings is strange. Could this be a museum or even a film set ? If it is
a UK airbase it's the worst kept one that I have ever seen, the grass is a
right mess and everywhere looks very shabby.

Bert-Jan[_5_]
August 14th 07, 10:35 AM
(Dave Speeking) wrote in news:bB5wi.1042$4w7.1018
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net:

> What is the plane on the right just in front of the Westland Whirlwind?
>
> Dave
>
>

It's a bit late and it's a while since I saw the original post, but looking
at the colours, it looked a bit like it was a coloured-in black/white
picture. Or is it just my (lack of) eyesight.

Would a repost be possible.

It WAS an interesting picture.

--
Cheers,

Bert-Jan

Hub Plott III
August 14th 07, 12:38 PM
It is an WWII FAA repair depot hence the many different aircraft.
"RustY©" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Casey Tompkins" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Anyway, that's a great shot, with all the different types, and I'd
>> love to hear if anyone has any background context. For example: is
>> that really a base in England? The vegetation seems to indicate that.
>
> The landscape and the vegetation suggest that this could well be summer in
> the UK but the different types of aircraft together with a lack of
> squadron
> markings is strange. Could this be a museum or even a film set ? If it
> is
> a UK airbase it's the worst kept one that I have ever seen, the grass is a
> right mess and everywhere looks very shabby.
>
>

Pjmac35
August 14th 07, 03:44 PM
"RustY©" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Casey Tompkins" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Anyway, that's a great shot, with all the different types, and I'd
>> love to hear if anyone has any background context. For example: is
>> that really a base in England? The vegetation seems to indicate that.
>
> The landscape and the vegetation suggest that this could well be summer in
> the UK but the different types of aircraft together with a lack of
> squadron
> markings is strange. Could this be a museum or even a film set ? If it
> is
> a UK airbase it's the worst kept one that I have ever seen, the grass is a
> right mess and everywhere looks very shabby.
>
>

There's an outside chance it could be Donibristle (HMS Merlin), in Fife,
which at one time was a Naval Aircraft Repair Yard.

Regards

Pat Macguire

Dave Speeking
August 14th 07, 05:49 PM
Pat; Right you are, it lacks the Whirlwind's "bullet".
Thanks.

Dave

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